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An ear infection is one of those things you really should go to the doctor for. Then I could be willing to say “Okay, that was stupid and unethical, but I will give you one more chance. was noting not that the boyfriend was solely blameful but that his charade was pretty ludicrously transparent. Fake Doctors Note With Signature For Work. Haha I had the same question! I would think that it would be well-known that the system screws up PTO requests. The reading order question is hotly debated, though. I believed my boss and it was on her to know policies. This is a pretty terrible thing to say, actually. Exactly Miles got his eyes torn off for being a liar not for having gotten his crewman so seriously injured. Yeah, I wasn’t thinking about that part. As with most things, it’s not the crime, it’s how you deal with it that gets you in trouble. In any case- thank you for posting this perspective. You have vacation time on paper, but you don’t in reality. I’ve been trying to come at this from Mike C.’s perspective, and the honest truth here, is, even if the Boss denied the vacation after granting it verbally and royally screwed mike over, well, that’s a possibility of life. It sounds like their PTO system is at least partially automated – it is possible that it auto-rejects requests made that exceed the employee’s current vacation allotment and requests made less than two weeks in advance. That’s the big focus. is it irresponsible to quit my job without having another one lined up? And at 8 years old, I understood that being screamed at for trying to sweep the floor because I “did it wrong” the day after being screamed at not “taking initiative” with a follow-up of “you don’t sweep, you don’t mop, you’re useless!” was completely unfair. Not to say a manager can’t revoke it, but it puts the pressure back on the company if he vacation is denied. The truth is, a doctors office even when directly called does not have to legally tell anyone that a patient is seen in the office. This is a pile-on. As a general point though, thanks to TV/other media and especially this blog, I now know way more about US employment laws than I do about their Canadian equivalents! Obviously the OP knows the boyfriend did something pretty heinous, but none of us is in that relationship. Many ear infections (including the one I had) are bacterial, and you can get prescribed a strong antibiotic for it to kill it. Instantly generate and print a fake note excuse for work or school. Fortunately for him, he has multiple streams of income so the greatest lost was the hours not the paycheck. Also, I think any doctor that would give a note clearing a patient to return to work when there was no illness or procedure that they were aware of is a lack of ethics on their part. I’ve unfortunately known plenty of people who would do exactly this. Nice article on genuine medical notes. human being would do! Yes. When your choose to make a decision like that, you negate the validity of all the reasons above. It seems to me that they gave him an opportunity to rectify the situation- they actually met with him and asked him about the note. It’s not just the lie. It wasn’t that I thought I’d done the work, it’s that they really should have believed me. Because even though I think his manager was wrong and they may have stupid leave policies, he shouldn’t have done all this. In my profession, this would not only be an instant firing offence, but very likely a professional discipline issue that might get you kicked out of the profession if regulators caught wind of it. The logic that a) anything that goes wrong must have been done for intentional, nefarious purposes and b) that therefore any reactions to that are wholly justified is really scary to me and I’d have a hard time believing it wouldn’t bleed over into personal life. I hope it gets easier for you with time. Just give him some symptoms and how much time off you need. Employer forced the employee into a corner and left him with no good options. It takes much skill to copy and create fake doctor’s note. That is, it really sounds like Boyfriend said “hey, I’m planning to ask for this time period off” and his manager said “sure, go ahead and put in for that, it won’t be a problem on my end.”. Really? But yeah, I’d still be hard pressed to keep someone on after such a major, deliberate, and premeditated lie. We are not out to screw anyone. Whether you want to make fake doctors note, doctors note for school or doctor’s excuse for any other purpose, you can make use of amazing doctors note templates and free doctors note generators listed below the article. Quickly Customize. Same deal at our local hospital. I wouldn’t be surprised if the employer fights the unemployment claim, too. I totally get that we all find our own ways to deal. I still have a hard time believing people who pay lip service to the “As long as you’re honest…” talk. (And it seems like every year or so, another result of my upbringing crops up, and then I have to deal with that, and it all seems never-ending.) There are US companies work that way as well. I think it’s not fair to blame the manager without knowing it happened, though, and we don’t know that. I likely wouldn’t buy refundable, they cost about twice as much. This is a doctor’s note including date, name, and illness. Do you believe a lot of people would take the rejection at face value without bringing up previous approval? We have such an awful system. But I can just tell her during our weekly meeting that I’m going to need ___ day off, and she’ll tell me that’s fine. That is because of the hospital’s policy, not because of HIPAA. If he had an actual medical procedure then he would have been able to produce the documentation. The Area Manager/Coach has been completely okay with it until tonight when he faxed her the employee change papers when she emailed and told him she needed to do a close with her first and she should be ready by next Thursday. But we ask employees to get written approval through email in this kind of situation. I hear what you’re saying, but -respectfully- this isn’t a relationship advice blog. I’m only trying to point out that this whole thing is a cluster going all the way down, and that the employer was in a much better situation to fix it or avoid it all together. I wonder if all of his time off is in one PTO bucket, too, or if he switched from asking for vacation days to needing sick or personal days, or if he was claiming he was going to use vacation for a medical procedure or something. Start making crazy HIPAA allegations.”. Denying responsibility can still be a survival tactic, even if you’ve never used it as such. And HAD he done that, I can imagine the manager and employee jointly contacting the department who approves vacations and getting the whole thing worked out. @ zillah The point is that you don’t know. Trivial? All I know is that there are doctors out there who will write you a medical note for anything you want. It doesn’t sound like it from the information we’ve been given. Yeah, the leave policy seems particularly onerous, but his situation can’t be the first time something like that has come up. https://www.aclu.org/faq-access-patient-information-friends-and-family. Had he come in to the meeting and explained essentially that he thought the verbal ok was enough, when he found out it wasn’t he panicked because he already had non-refundable plane tickets so he made up the note to get the time off, he knows he was wrong, etc etc — would your response change? Wow. If he had put the request in anyway (maybe even right after he talked with his boss and got the “verbal” and that the boss would still had fresh in his mind) it might have gotten shot down – but he’d also have a record that he did meet the policy for leave requests. ;-). Yeah, there’s no way he even tried discussing the fact that he already had plane tickets and THEN tried to coincidentally have an urgent medical appointment for the same time period. Unless, however, their PTO is use-it-or-lose it with no carryover that renews July 1. I am not against your plan or anything, Viva L. but the last several times I’ve purchased plane tickets I have been freaking out because they are non transferable, non refundable, and if you make a typo and the names on your license and ticket don’t match, you have to pay beaucoup bucks to fix it… if they even let you. I learned that trying to do the right thing or making a small mistake (i.e. (Studies show their heartrate actually goes down when they are allegedly “out of control”.) In our system, you submit your request for time off online. 3. Every one of them would go to the manager, let them know it’s a problem and work out a solution. – what actually happened with the vacation rejection (did the boss misinterpret the verbal confirmation, did the system auto-reject the request), and how did the BF follow up (and quite frankly, did he follow up before constructing this crazy scheme)? Since the BF forged the note, when they asked for a clearance note to come back to work, he probably would have gotten caught if it had been a real doctor on the second note and not matched the first note. People who didn’t grow up in a culture like that may find it hard to understand the mindset – in a way it’s parallel to the way people who didn’t grow up under abuse etc. Show them your badge. Also, maybe I just am using a different definition of the term “red flag,” which I see as just meaning a warning sign, something you should pay attention to, not that this thing is definitely happening. I hope he is a better boyfriend than employee. However, it should go without being said that the reaction to that isn’t forging doctor’s notes! I agree with Alison that his actions now are speaking volumes about his character, and it’s going to be a huge mess to sort out. The dr office said they had no patient by that name, which doesnt violate HIPAA. And I worked on the second one. I work in the medical field, and I told him that HIPAA doesn’t apply to him because at the end of the day, he actually isn’t a patient of the medical facility. If he called in sick those days, though, it would obviously look suspicious (since he had just requested vacation), so he decided to head off the suspicion by saying that the vacation time he requested was actually to get a medical procedure — hence the forged doctor’s note. It’s mostly to be taken as a joke, sorry. He had previously expressed to his boss that he was too overwhelmed with all the special projects he was being assigned, and couldn’t keep up with everything else. This could easily be considered willful misconduct. before sending a letter from his lawyer [and quite frankly, the way this letter is presented biases me against the BF and makes me think he’s the type to go nuclear instead of trying to work things out reasonably first]. Less snarkily, why wouldn’t you? How could anyone (much less Gregor AND Simon) misread Miles’s hunger for recognition so badly? Call a lawyer. Sorry to hear you went through this, Tara. This usually manifests itself in many ways in the employee’s life and job performance, not just isolated incidents. good to know. In old days when we take leave we have to go in hospital and consult to the doctor for making a fake doctor excuse. Our reporting system would have automatically denied this. I have run into this many times. Trust in the employer, not in the employee. What he’s doing now says something much deeper about his character.). For one thing, this is not something you do easily in a couple of minutes on impulse. “If I do things the straightforward way, it will not go well for me. That’s some George Costanza-level forgery right there. It’s such a trivial thing that I can’t imagine it never coming up again. I always get verbal confirmation from my boss that yes, I can take those days off, and then when I fill out my timesheet, I put in the request for the day(s) off, but the key here is that my boss is the one who approves or denies it. This happened in the US and yes he’s a citizen. Heh). I also have a concern about negotiating a neutral or positive reference for this former employee. The fact that he didn’t even attempt to fight it and went straight to forging a note is a little odd. Employees don’t get to lie to their employers then claim unfairness of treatment or that trust goes both ways. Feb 16, 2018 - We make a personalized Doctor's Note from a clinic or hospital. Enjoy my lawyer.”). Nah, I’m pretty sure they asked for the second note specifically to catch him. I’m hoping that is actually what happened and the OP just left it out for the sake of brevity since this was already a fairly long story. It comes up anecdotally so often that it’s mind-boggling, really. I actually submitted it into the system and it got denied…I bought a nonrefundable ticket to Cuba so I’m in a tight spot. Yay. I think that a system denied something, but that doesn’t mean management screwed him – he didn’t give them the opportunity to make it right. You’re assuming it happened because it should have happened, but based on other info in the letter, I get the vibe that he did NOT talk to his boss after his request was denied. You should check your credit card terms too – I have a United Airlines credit card and when I had my accident this year I was able to get all of my travel reservations refunded through the insurance offered as part of the card. I’ve had Memory sitting on my “to read” bookshelf for a few months now… thanks to this thread, I think I’ll bump it up to next on my list! Absolutely agreed. I was wondering about the logistics of tearing off eyes…. I’d think long and hard about a future with this man. Instead of bringing the problem with the system to a person who had any authority to fix it, he went straight to forging a doctor’s note and lying to his manager. The approved the time, then denied him. Why bother bringing up your plane flight at that point? As far as I know, simply attempting to verify the authenticity of the note doesn’t violate any laws. Can we work something out?”. So they don’t nickel and dime us on our hours). That’s why I had to point out first that he was dead wrong for doing this. Let’s all just take him out back and flog him. He had been there three years and he did not know there was a problem? You don’t have to talk yourself out of accepting that you were abused because someone else was treated worse. Could be several reasons behind it of course, but it’s generally known in my industry that August and September are off-limits for vacation and requesting time off during these months is an automatic rejection. I understand that lying is an integrity issue, but I don’t think people realize just how much of a survival mechanism it can be. But it seems, if you can or upon request. Let this be a warning for others – if you choose to work at an employer, you have to adhere to their leave policies, whether you like them or not. Would you temper your stance if in fact he didn’t go to the boss and try to resolve this by sharing fuller information? But this sort of thing can be expected, as it happens often. But, my sympathy doesn’t mean there wouldn’t be consequences. It sounds like the OP’s boyfriend was also aware in advance that he would have to wait until July 1st to submit the vacation. I wonder why he didn’t address how he should have handled this issue (or if would create a problem) of submitting the request without the appropriate notice. Memory does have some good management, but I’ve always thought there was a bit of bad personnel reading too. Any other policy would force employees to wait until the last minute to book flights or (as OP’s boyfriend thought was the case) prohibit them from booking vacations within 2 weeks of PTO rollover if they don’t have saved vacation days. I probably waste far too much time on this site. It’s surprisingly difficult to find straight answers about these things, so it would be great to have a post with some reliable information! It is, but that’s not K.J.’s point. However, the key there is authorization. They’ve got the second one in the system, very recently, and it’s obvious that he’s asking for the exact same time off. Did you think (a) “I really want to know the immediate backstory of this situation?” or did you think (b) “I want to know everything about Miles?” or did you think (c) “I want to know everything about this world? I wonder where she is now? Here’s the author’s recommendation for what order to read them in: https://www.goodreads.com/story/show/293438-the-vorkosigan-saga-reading-order-debate-the-chef-recommends. I was also thinking that boyfriend might have mistakenly assumed he couldn’t request vacation prior to earning it. We don’t know this actually. I did make sure and let them know waaaay in advance for the very long autumn UK holiday and also several months before the second one. He will likely be denied, but sometimes companies don’t contest it. 6) give the trip to someone else, have them reimburse you. I think at the time, we were urging him to fess up so it would only be firing and not prosecution. His first plan of action was to come up with a scheme to still be able to go on his trip. If I had a bad cold and missed a bunch of work, the doctor probably wouldn’t have been aware of my legitimate illness until I felt good enough to go back to work, which would require a doctor’s note. should we provide the name behind anonymous feedback to a customer? If he were denied the original request in this situation, talking to the manager about it honestly would, in his mind, entail the unacceptable risk of being told he couldn’t take the vacation days despite the booked flight (especially if he felt the manager didn’t like him or didn’t care either way). I am having a very similar reaction to you. To me, it’s not just the lying (although that’s certainly enough to justify firing), it’s the adversarial/hostile relationship with management that led to the lying. No. By that logic, feigning a death in the family to get an extension on a paper in college is a red flag for health care fraud or plagiarism is a red flag for infidelity. I have some sympathy on the “I told you so” credit issue, actually, though I often find those kinds of things obnoxious. We’ve recently had to take one of our kids to some specialists and each one has a form authorizing specific people with whom they can discuss her medical care, even the daycare director and school nurse. It is a shame that employers these days intimidate and make their employees fear job loss by tactics of intimidation such as to act towards the employee that they are not a person, but just someone who can be bullied and expendable. It’s all a lot of I said / you said. However, this is not unusual because there are some people in companies and institutions who have been using fake doctors note to be excused from work or school. While there are exceptions where lying is really the only practical course, that should never be the default, and not just because of the integrity issue, which is huge on it’s own. However, it seems to me that everyone fails to take into consideration that he had been verbally promised time off that he had a right to, banked on, and was devastated and disheartened at the fact he was losing it. Does the doctor just write the note on Day 3 sort of retroactively, as if you’d shown up on Day 1? It’s not the desire to go on the vacation that cost him the job – it’s the scheming and lying. This is such an active comments board :). I couldn’t figure out why he was so fixated on this. The leave situation is also a little weird. Yeah, the forgery is bad enough – that’s got to be illegal – but the failure to take responsibility would make my blood boil, as an employer or a significant other. Yeah, the only time I’ve needed a doctor’s note was when the short term disability administrator called to authorize my claim after giving birth. We also suggest you how to make it more realistic. Hiring a lawyer isn’t the problem. OP says that Boyfriend had to put in an official request after getting verbal confirmation and that the request “was denied” – we don’t know by whom. It’s assuming that the request was denied to screw the boyfriend over, not because it was a system restriction or because someone made an error or the manager (who is a human and prone to human mistakes) just plain forgot about their conversation from months earlier and the whole thing could’ve been solved with a 10-second discussion. Some of them take a particular joy in going about this in ways that make them think they’ve pulled a fast one on everybody else. Someone else pointed out upthread that the OP’s boyfriend may have decided to go forward with the medical excuse because there was the possibility that if he talked to the manager and the manager said “sorry, but the request was denied, nothing I can do” the eventual medical excuse would’ve looked even more fishy up front. He already gave management a heads up, it shouldn’t have been denied. – why would the company refuse to certify his hours? With a letterhead in the header area of doctor’s note, it includes date and provision for the patient’s name … Yes, many employers watch for this. 44 Free Fake Doctors Note Templates to Download Nancy Young December 4, 2019 A medical certificate or doctor’s note is a written statement from a doctor or other health service provider that confirms the results of a patient’s medical examination. I had screaming, swearing etc, but also beatings that left serious bruises and that included being kicked, punched by a former successful boxer and whipped with electrical cords. This world needs more Vorkosigan references! Or maybe that’s not how the system works but the boyfriend was confused? I was astounded by the conversation, and I imagine the boyfriend’s HR felt the same way — I was showing him conclusive proof he made a mistake and was lying, and he kept doubling down. 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